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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jv9si424619wid.0.2015.08.03.18.52.35 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b; Received: by mail-wi0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id xm9so145045496wib.0 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:52:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.37.33 with SMTP id v1mr2511868wij.88.1438653155135; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:52:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.227.132 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:51:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael Turniansky Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 21:51:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Where to start reading To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f6476f3445665051c728a5d X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --e89a8f6476f3445665051c728a5d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 http://mw.lojban.org/papri/not_a_Box ? (also translated by me) On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:24 PM, wrote: > Actually I'm having a bit trouble with it and was looking for a text that > was perhaps even simpler. Not that I can't understand it, it is just a lot > of work to decipher the grammar... > > On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 10:52:39 AM UTC-3, Michael Turniansky wrote: >> >> Speaking for myself, as author of Terry the Tiger, if there is a dot >> before the T in the title, that's because someone added it (probably in the >> migration from the old wiki to the new). I certainly never had it. >> Dotside has never been considered official, and until it is, I won't use >> it. All that being said, as latro'a said, it doesn't make a difference in >> print since the periods are always optional if there is a space in place of >> them. >> >> I happen to immodestly think my story is a great beginning text... >> >> --gejyspa >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Mauricio Bosshard >> wrote: >> >>> coi ro do >>> >>> I'm more than halfway through the wave lessons, but I still feel I >>> have a really hard time dealing with an actual lojban text. Also, I >>> seem to remember hearing about a change that took place in lojban >>> grammar, so I am left wondering if the things I don't understand are >>> even current. For example in "la .teris. ...." the period in the >>> beginning of the name is not used except in the title. I was under the >>> impression this was mandatory, so I tend to think this text is in an >>> older version of lojban. >>> >>> So what are good texts to start reading in people's opinions? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban-beginne...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Mon, Aug 3= , 2015 at 9:24 PM, <mauriciobosshard@gmail.com> wr= ote:
Actually I'm ha= ving a bit trouble with it and was looking for a text that was perhaps even= simpler. Not that I can't understand it, it is just a lot of work to d= ecipher the grammar...

On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 10:52:39 A= M UTC-3, Michael Turniansky wrote:
=C2=A0 Speaking for myself, as author of Terry= the Tiger, if there is a dot before the T in the title, that's because= someone added it (probably in the migration from the old wiki to the new).= =C2=A0 I certainly never had it.=C2=A0 Dotside has never been considered of= ficial, and until it is, I won't use it.=C2=A0 All that being said, as = latro'a said, it doesn't make a difference in print since the perio= ds are always optional if there is a space in place of them. =C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0 I happen to immodestly think my story is a great b= eginning text...

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Mauricio = Bosshard <mauricio...@gmail.com> wrote:
coi ro d= o

I'm more than halfway through the wave lessons, but I still feel I
have a really hard time dealing with an actual lojban text. Also, I
seem to remember hearing about a change that took place in lojban
grammar, so I am left wondering if the things I don't understand are even current. For example in "la .teris. ...." the period in the<= br> beginning of the name is not used except in the title. I was under the
impression this was mandatory, so I tend to think this text is in an
older version of lojban.

So what are good texts to start reading in people's opinions?

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