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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec7si317039wib.3.2015.08.10.05.51.50 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::231; Received: by mail-wi0-x231.google.com with SMTP id ja10so23746078wic.1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:51:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.175.65 with SMTP id by1mr48277516wjc.152.1439211110362; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:51:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.227.8 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:51:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael Turniansky Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:51:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Where to start reading To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d196afd73cb051cf472e7 X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --089e013d196afd73cb051cf472e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Mauricio Bosshard < mauriciobosshard@gmail.com> wrote: > What a cute story! It was also exactly what I was looking for, very, > very simple so I can start getting a better feel for the language. > > .i ki'e la maikl. > je'e > > 2015-08-03 22:51 GMT-03:00 Michael Turniansky : > > http://mw.lojban.org/papri/not_a_Box ? (also translated by me) > > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:24 PM, wrote: > >> > >> Actually I'm having a bit trouble with it and was looking for a text > that > >> was perhaps even simpler. Not that I can't understand it, it is just a > lot > >> of work to decipher the grammar... > >> > >> On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 10:52:39 AM UTC-3, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > >>> > >>> Speaking for myself, as author of Terry the Tiger, if there is a dot > >>> before the T in the title, that's because someone added it (probably > in the > >>> migration from the old wiki to the new). I certainly never had it. > Dotside > >>> has never been considered official, and until it is, I won't use it. > All > >>> that being said, as latro'a said, it doesn't make a difference in print > >>> since the periods are always optional if there is a space in place of > them. > >>> > >>> I happen to immodestly think my story is a great beginning text... > >>> > >>> --gejyspa > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Mauricio Bosshard < > mauricio...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> coi ro do > >>>> > >>>> I'm more than halfway through the wave lessons, but I still feel I > >>>> have a really hard time dealing with an actual lojban text. Also, I > >>>> seem to remember hearing about a change that took place in lojban > >>>> grammar, so I am left wondering if the things I don't understand are > >>>> even current. For example in "la .teris. ...." the period in the > >>>> beginning of the name is not used except in the title. I was under the > >>>> impression this was mandatory, so I tend to think this text is in an > >>>> older version of lojban. > >>>> > >>>> So what are good texts to start reading in people's opinions? > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>> an email to lojban-beginne...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Lojban Beginners" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > > Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban-beginners/cR4n6JraCEw/unsubscribe > . > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Mauricio Bosshard &l= t;mauriciob= osshard@gmail.com> wrote:
W= hat a cute story! It was also exactly what I was looking for, very,
very simple so I can start getting a better feel for the language.

.i ki'e la maikl.

je'e=C2=A0

2015-08-03 22:51 GMT-03:00 Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>:
> http://mw.lojban.org/papri/not_a_Box ? (also translated= by me)
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:24 PM, <mauriciobosshard@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Actually I'm having a bit trouble with it and was looking for = a text that
>> was perhaps even simpler. Not that I can't understand it, it i= s just a lot
>> of work to decipher the grammar...
>>
>> On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 10:52:39 AM UTC-3, Michael Turniansky= wrote:
>>>
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Speaking for myself, as author of Terry the Tiger,= if there is a dot
>>> before the T in the title, that's because someone added it= (probably in the
>>> migration from the old wiki to the new).=C2=A0 I certainly nev= er had it.=C2=A0 Dotside
>>> has never been considered official, and until it is, I won'= ;t use it.=C2=A0 All
>>> that being said, as latro'a said, it doesn't make a di= fference in print
>>> since the periods are always optional if there is a space in p= lace of them.
>>>
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0I happen to immodestly think my story is a great b= eginning text...
>>>
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejys= pa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Mauricio Bosshard <mauricio...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> coi ro do
>>>>
>>>> I'm more than halfway through the wave lessons, but I = still feel I
>>>> have a really hard time dealing with an actual lojban text= . Also, I
>>>> seem to remember hearing about a change that took place in= lojban
>>>> grammar, so I am left wondering if the things I don't = understand are
>>>> even current. For example in "la .teris. ...." t= he period in the
>>>> beginning of the name is not used except in the title. I w= as under the
>>>> impression this was mandatory, so I tend to think this tex= t is in an
>>>> older version of lojban.
>>>>
>>>> So what are good texts to start reading in people's op= inions?
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>
>>>
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