Received: from mail-wi0-f186.google.com ([209.85.212.186]:33861) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUKbz-0007RQ-E8 for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:14:31 -0700 Received: by wicxr16 with SMTP id xr16sf5709158wic.1 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:14:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=JN9O4JdUd6o0tqAKjEpGI3zt26rnM56Zq+cS/30IFZU=; b=RLWIYfHZ+jX0LufeorIxMo0vxRdbfI7efOXU4F0zn+iJ0IVB41LQz+1n30ipgbciA+ AqYikqFxx+b4IoKXqV0uxgUuwR3lHocblqjbspngAzn4fCTfNzkVoNjH37FovPYweyae 0XvzSUZBXy5ddG9gzOUKceE6lUZ2KcgpmvgMuniJyNVd2XN3VW8na09fLI3mvzaLEACo ABzX6j8cTtIATXi5AK3VSpBrmnHAOMU1MRfh7v9WqlUWOfKUfW6htXqgcssI/MaPI0q2 oLKucCcgxcJHy6dxD8NV6jdjXzJY7M98dM+x3NlROjVMnS8AoXp60gqKfCMR5TJeJdfN 9eDA== X-Received: by 10.180.79.170 with SMTP id k10mr23053wix.1.1440533661032; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:14:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.37.212 with SMTP id a20ls190381wik.39.gmail; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:14:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.216.12 with SMTP id om12mr1385180wic.1.1440533658436; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id et8si159147wib.2.2015.08.25.13.14.18 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c; Received: by mail-wi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id dq5so26532103wid.1 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:14:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.37.33 with SMTP id v1mr7740858wij.88.1440533658344; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:14:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.227.8 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:13:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55DCC93B.2050206@gmx.de> References: <55DCC93B.2050206@gmx.de> From: Michael Turniansky Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:13:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban attempt: please correct To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f6476f3fe22e0051e28605f X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mturniansky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --e89a8f6476f3fe22e0051e28605f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > And for the second one you can use either of the following: > > {ma xe fanva zoi gy. .gy lo jbobau} -- "What's the translation > result of into Lojban?" > > {ma noi lojbo cu smudu'i zoi gy. .gy [gi'e lojbo]} -- "What > Lojban expression has the same meaning as ?" > > I like the second one because it doesn't involve an agent (fanva1). The > first one is the old-school way > (And since I am old school, that's the one I suggested ;-) --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --e89a8f6476f3fe22e0051e28605f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


And for the second one you can use either of the following:

{ma xe fanva zoi gy. <English> .gy lo jbobau} -- "What's the= translation result of <English> into Lojban?"

{ma noi lojbo cu smudu'i zoi gy. <English> .gy [gi'e lojbo]} = -- "What Lojban expression has the same meaning as <English>?&qu= ot;

I like the second one because it doesn't involve an agent (fanva1). The= first one is the old-school way

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