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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Trying my first translation ... a few questions.
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So we are currently gathering friends to find Puppy's toys.  My question 
today concerns the connective that I need to use with selbri.  I think that 
I need je in this case, but am not positive.

"Oh, Duck," says Frog. Let's go and look for Puppy's bark."
.i lu doi datka - sei la pipybafli cu cusku - ma'a kalama je sisku lo ka 
ko'a gercmo li'u

I used ma'a since contextually, we have Puppy, Bird, Frog, and Duck, and 
not just Frog and Duck (mi'o).

My only other concern was "look for".  Initially, I thought that it would 
be viska, but then I stopped and thought about it some.  About what they 
were really trying to accomplish.  And I came up with sisku, and they are 
searching for something, not necessarily looking at it.

I hope that I actually got this part right.  And I really am learning so 
much more translating to Lojban than from it.  You really need to think 
about what is really trying to be said instead of engrained euphemisms 
(look for), and what part of grammar something really is.
 

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>So we are currently gathering friends to find Puppy&#=
39;s toys.=C2=A0 My question today concerns the connective that I need to u=
se with <font style=3D"background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">selbri</font>=
.=C2=A0 I think that I need <font style=3D"background-color: rgb(204, 204, =
204);">je</font> in this case, but am not positive.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>&quot;Oh, Duck,&quot; says Frog. Let&#39;s go and look for Puppy&#39;s ba=
rk.&quot;</div><div><font style=3D"background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">.=
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=A0ka ko&#39;a gercmo li&#39;u</font></div><div><br></div><div>I used <font=
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kground-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> since contextually, we have Puppy, Bir=
d, Frog, and Duck, and not just Frog and Duck (<font style=3D"background-co=
lor: rgb(204, 204, 204);">mi&#39;o</font>).</font></font></div><div><br></d=
iv><div>My only other concern=C2=A0was &quot;look for&quot;.=C2=A0 Initiall=
y, I thought that it would be <font style=3D"background-color: rgb(204, 204=
, 204);">viska</font>, but then I stopped and thought about it some.=C2=A0 =
About what they were really trying to accomplish.=C2=A0 And I came up with =
<font style=3D"background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">sisku</font>, and the=
y are searching for something, not necessarily looking at it.</div><div><br=
></div><div>I hope that I actually got this part right.=C2=A0 And I really =
am learning so much more translating to Lojban than from it.=C2=A0 You real=
ly need to think about what is really trying to be said instead of engraine=
d euphemisms (look for), and what part of=C2=A0grammar something=C2=A0reall=
y is.</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div>

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