Received: from mail-oi0-f60.google.com ([209.85.218.60]:32982) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZchPR-00034x-2f for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:12:11 -0700 Received: by oixx17 with SMTP id x17sf5244526oix.0 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:11:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=2T0R4Z5c0iKZcWBdjCxc6+qDPykEg3gZV9yue5/CGZc=; b=ulYEE4rRCWouUF/b62qCna2HTGLfTeYMKEBJWXgjhB8HUU2zsi5KWg4aMVb4d3LunJ IBqxrMQwyvY5zfwZbXgyrq4Ljpx+Vf7SaXxAr2LfmVryBUEwdvsOn8QmsqZZrHygOyle bniLoFKrJLxN0cj2NDplpOmGq0virZTS7elRMk+oP3RA9ua5I8/ALP89hkrqK36gUX6b UWky4DaqMCseZQ1FwCGWAzGGbkaV0YqAE/cyRVMzyYuj8s0Xk1NdEOWh+1RgC4GZYFo5 b3YirL75xseODXB7IVGkn4+kJkvvKWFItd+G/DoXUJfttFIHRm20RkP+a4FVCjeHumcn ESDQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=2T0R4Z5c0iKZcWBdjCxc6+qDPykEg3gZV9yue5/CGZc=; b=YzB5ew01FuKqY/pxuct0aOnBkrr+kuqSIP2ErsQvdWRNWdgKA3uMUGN+rjyDUdjicA bdpx5SMRVePr0daEMLEQa1t0UoLRzWNeCXfsfckpz37cKTrbadFZ1WufCNL4GkyyzYMc 5YjHptAJXtKYROobdmiJgXcyEdXrCx5eTV/LfFgW7+tCIBzOyO2BLbVxXOMR/Gc74seQ vaXLclPP997sZP1t80xNTvoAPeaWhhfnR1NbDG+PEaR/2Fd75qy+0bE+WbCkUZIiIvq6 JtkAgi5pXSMdvzKhLKgj8n6RXKWwdsuMnEdKL8N7Pwqh9bj2r13mlrsEKWaBSbsyKEfn sMxQ== X-Received: by 10.182.246.5 with SMTP id xs5mr11909obc.2.1442527919266; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:11:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.111.137 with SMTP id ii9ls257869obb.7.gmail; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:11:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.186.101 with SMTP id fj5mr11071obc.3.1442527918419; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:11:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew To: Lojban Beginners Cc: phma@bezitopo.org Message-Id: <5731f83f-ced3-48aa-958a-62a55edeaac1@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <6841974.vC9XkMjLoQ@caracal> References: <6841974.vC9XkMjLoQ@caracal> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] klama MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1317_1525216652.1442527918022" X-Original-Sender: summerfallsaway@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_1317_1525216652.1442527918022 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1318_597142225.1442527918035" ------=_Part_1318_597142225.1442527918035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think one could argue that the "vehicle" for traveling bits is the Series of Tubes :) On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 5:02:03 AM UTC-7, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Thursday, September 17, 2015 13:14:42 Remo Dentato wrote: > > {klama} should only be for physical movement. If we accept {kibro} as a > > valid gismu (which is something I happily do), I would use {kibycpa} > > I'd use {kibycpa} for "download" and {kibycta} for looking at a web page. > > {klama} requires a destination, an origin, a route, and a means of > transport. > You aren't going from an origin to a destination when you view a web page. > The > packets containing the web page do muvdu (not sure about {klama} as I > don't > see a vehicle involved). > > Pierre > -- > Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1318_597142225.1442527918035 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think one could argue that the "vehicle" for t= raveling bits is the Series of Tubes :)

On Thursday, September 17, 2= 015 at 5:02:03 AM UTC-7, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Thursday, September 17, 2015 13:14:42 Remo Dentato wrote:
> {klama} should only be for physical movement. If we accept {kibro}= as a
> valid gismu (which is something I happily do), I would use {kibycp= a}

I'd use {kibycpa} for "download" and {kibycta} for lookin= g at a web page.

{klama} requires a destination, an origin, a route, and a means of tran= sport.=20
You aren't going from an origin to a destination when you view a we= b page. The=20
packets containing the web page do muvdu (not sure about {klama} as I d= on't=20
see a vehicle involved).

Pierre
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Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

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