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[69.5.6.245]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d81si1287598ywb.7.2015.09.19.10.12.06 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 19 Sep 2015 10:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.5.6.245 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojban@fagricipni.com) client-ip=69.5.6.245; Message-ID: <55fd9766.544f810a.9ebb3.ffff8225SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@gmr-mx.google.com> Received: (qmail 13506 invoked by uid 12318); 19 Sep 2015 17:12:05 -0000 Received: from 192.168.6.118 (proxying for 24.51.167.210) (SquirrelMail authenticated user lojban@fagricipni.com) by QuestMail.FutureQuest.net:443 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:12:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:12:05 -0400 Subject: [lojban-beginners] From: lojban@fagricipni.com To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Original-Sender: lojban@fagricipni.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.5.6.245 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojban@fagricipni.com) smtp.mailfrom=lojban@fagricipni.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - mi'e fagri cipni >On 19.09.2015 04:29, H. Felton wrote: >> coi ro do .i mi'e fagri cipni > >coi do > >> Well, I'm am the prodigal child returning. OK, that's probably not > the most apropos of metaphors; but I do feel bad for disappearing > so long ago. I still have The Complete Lojban Language book and have > been reading it again. Unfortunately, I have also forgotten a lot > of things. > > mi ze'u pu [1] na'e gleki > I have not been happy for a long time. > * I am best trying to describe my depression here. > >I use "dribi'a" for "depression". I thought it was on jbovlaste, but I >see it's not. I shall add it. > >> [1] I believe that this is the correct order: for a long time [ze'u] >> in the past [pu]. > >Yes, depending on what you mean. If the long time in the past is >adjacent to the present moment, then "ze'u pu" is the right order. drani That is correct. (The statement of my intended meaning, the first sumti is an implied "zo'e", so what is correct is vague, but should be apparent.) >> .i mi co'a ca gleki >> I am starting to become happy. >> .i vecnu lo cukta .a lo junla [2] mi >> I bought a book and a clock. > >".a" is inclusive or, you need ".e". .e'e nai I should have caught that one; though, oddly enough, it is still a correct statement, just not what I meant. Note, I am presently including English translations of most of my Lojban, so that mistakes in my Lojban can be caught, just as you did here. >I'd say it as: > >"mi .erve lo cukta .e lo junla" > >(".erve" is just a shortening of "terve'u") ".erve" for "terve'u"? How does that work? >mi'e la selpa'i mu'o "la selpa'i"? Would "beloved" be an intended translation of your name? mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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