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[212.227.15.18]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si211951wif.1.2015.09.20.04.53.09 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 20 Sep 2015 04:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.18; Received: from [192.168.2.120] ([93.220.114.244]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MZTP3-1ZJ43c1vtV-00LFQv for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2015 13:53:09 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: <55fd9766.544f810a.9ebb3.ffff8225SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@gmr-mx.google.com> From: selpahi Message-ID: <55FE9E24.5020206@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 13:53:08 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55fd9766.544f810a.9ebb3.ffff8225SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@gmr-mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:zhC+NqamiCmOZhFdLqdLWWzjwsLLTwiFhiLN7lS/bgAfNd88aOi d0lTjIHwSUHRIhD6YiDVsec2p8plV0I/7vpM0aeNBhk5V99ZJ/ABxdE8yHe4O+39GP2OCfJ VUaRGfonhdOEgaViNhvGKCK2aGEr9+UQOTrfO4XO7oHXIhOk3dc8HET5VRNacSOZF1LCS9b rV54CivENkzQuQ0JySl2A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:sG/oJPKqoAY=:PoK049FR9O2iwlmINtDplg M1ssTiyO3D/HTM28oo5POqKItOMiRdV4HH2sszxx6Z1vncsPIt1cDe+rAeCy6XoKcyYBTYWnn Thk8CEvgiNdyNw+Ky+o24OSt6iD+Gf4tCc+mmTXRkmMDqVmBEvEmcC5rOkPUdX/bVALttLAnC HAUdL9a1EsRK15scbdiKXVoXVpToO+jyO+aNUE98HNCLCsSXxPqerbiViNKWneKg4ERneVM2H s0NKaALnlNGzB3Ir5a34fRgQ/6PPWmgAH0HxT+LQpE4sWF5E4zGlLwbtuWWCAoe26V0csMYR1 uCWe/LOd4oA4YJiKkXBodZgcDsYvIApLxHPH9bgwfkUAllursdYbrfy30UpZ52CEiplYPl9AB tTNZRXY6DgX/hfIEeXbyVDz17RTLx1V+TaT75D9etmMuFZMQKH7/LLONPW7yx5SkeLvQ8DB8M +tuaElaD5lWD1DraGY5OKcaY5OY/mzpC0qAHx1VsODLHOsADkF8g5I6b/R7Nr+HHOdsCLdpxT eMixIYrCnVcDaOGM/vsCs4eTj+N+jWAnqd/3Pdhfe71fRx0rEfnnolbsA/n1jZewr2J6IWdrV raGT8GRcL1P8pHUPwK7BPGaleucD7J4Wp9gw65994vvXAJnFQt/6LeresHyybnVkP0rA/6aKI w0a2uLU5PD9y329zTIZeAGWAWFMdlY7DV951D7YeoIF3K10WcZTJRerXoQQw12P8wv1VZY/7x dlFxxreNfCPbrB5ZUryItFZn5CEUyxKVavApjg== X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - la fagri cipni cu cusku di'e >> ".a" is inclusive or, you need ".e". > > .e'e nai ( This is another thing that has changed, see: https://mw.lojban.org/papri/BPFK_Section:_Irrealis_Attitudinals#cmavo:_.e.27e_.28UI1.29 ) >> I'd say it as: >> >> "mi .erve lo cukta .e lo junla" >> >> (".erve" is just a shortening of "terve'u") > > ".erve" for "terve'u"? How does that work? ".erve" is just another word that is defined in the dictionary: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/erve >> mi'e la selpa'i mu'o > > "la selpa'i"? Would "beloved" be an intended translation of your > name? Well, "Beloved" (with a capital B) is a possible translation, or Amando/Amanda, etc, but I wouldn't actually translate my name to any of those. The meaning of "selpa'i" is "beloved", but I'm just selpa'i, even in English. That reminds me. When you said "mi'e fagri cipni" you said "I am a fire bird". You need to use "la" to refer to something as a name. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. 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