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[2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hx4si319320igb.0.2015.09.23.20.58.41 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236; Received: by mail-ig0-x236.google.com with SMTP id rk20so113532212igc.1 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:58:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.79.167 with SMTP id k7mr25938812igx.67.1443067121153; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.75.195 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:58:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <56036e46.c681810a.2dd7c.ffffacc8SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@gmr-mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:58:41 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Relative Clauses and Terminators From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a1a3824becc0520763f13 X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eyeonus@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e013a1a3824becc0520763f13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You can check this yourself with camxes: mi djica lo nu mi klama lo zarci be lo cukta ti mi djica lo nu mi klama lo zarci be lo cukta kei ti On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > The sumti {lo zarci be lo cukta} doesn't need to be terminated, but you > would need a kei to break out of the {lonu mi klama}. > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:30 PM, wrote: > >> mi'e la fagri cipni >> >> >> mi djica lo nu mi klama lo zarci be lo cukta >> I want the event of my going to a store that sells books. >> I want to go to a book store. >> >> If I wanted to get to the third place of "djica" here I believe that >> I would need two terminators here: either "ku ku" or "be'o ku". The >> first terminator, either "ku" or "be'o", terminates "lo cukta"; the >> second, "ku" in both cases, terminates "lo zarci ...". >> >> mu'o mi'e la fagri cipni >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Wed, Sep= 23, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wro= te:
The sumti {lo zarci = be lo cukta} doesn't need to be terminated, but you would need a kei to= break out of the {lonu mi klama}.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9= :30 PM, <lojban@fagricipni.com> wrote:
mi'e la fagri cipni


mi djica lo nu mi klama lo zarci be lo cukta
I want the event of my going to a store that sells books.
I want to go to a book store.

If I wanted to get to the third place of "djica" here I believe t= hat
I would need two terminators here: either "ku ku" or "be'= ;o ku".=C2=A0 The
first terminator, either "ku" or "be'o", terminates= "lo cukta"; the
second, "ku" in both cases, terminates "lo zarci ...".<= br>
mu'o mi'e la fagri cipni

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mu'o mi'e .a= ionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pa= tfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno b= e denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke,= I am your father. :D )

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