Received: from mail-lf0-f64.google.com ([209.85.215.64]:33856) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Zyvsk-0005Qz-NH for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:06:19 -0800 Received: by lfs39 with SMTP id 39sf8735430lfs.1 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:06:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=CH6Xus3oj+ACz2YkKkVxrTx6sM7Ms4OkFUUJGTQUuSs=; b=pgWD7oBaI7IRduhWLFJOs8QtKgs9eh1FrOdIKNadNX46UOkbEKhbZMEkiWp8lh3I9b 64j4dgos9kATxnCXfnAgVJO843rm/e3c2KXS5ieLtR8g/4eGRH/N43DoysDXiL0fA++p XvAcny3UentBlIT0gSvhOzuGEQnu0BZ2bU6jNsLqlQWLreYy0yF1EjrHQX4flWtgqmAA AK6yyzfylEji960pzDtvxzIsVIVpOKmVIbkVjx8X2kSxSw+49wjbwFi0TgTQEeQMeXLd 3lhhL/DYEc75Rvu7iVR1yQJ2BMKLMpewwKXElzm+nB9m0HrEis+3hGQc3hwDmw2opYl6 pwNw== X-Received: by 10.25.41.195 with SMTP id p186mr77426lfp.2.1447826766821; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:06:06 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.25.218.130 with SMTP id r124ls28292lfg.61.gmail; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:06:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.155.136 with SMTP id vw8mr6927163lbb.13.1447826765154; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a128si919582wma.2.2015.11.17.22.06.05 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::232; Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id c201so261609827wme.0 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:06:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.28.104.197 with SMTP id d188mr7464971wmc.55.1447826764973; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:06:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.74.105 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 22:05:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:05:25 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Sarcasm To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114b2e6005cd050524ca70f3 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a114b2e6005cd050524ca70f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-11-18 3:01 GMT+03:00 la .tamar. : > coi > > My friend wanted to know if there is an attitudinal for showing sarcasm. > > Is there one? > Depends on what you mean by sarcasm. There is "mockery" (the verb {ckasu } ) and verbal irony . Given that the proposed interjection modifier {xo'o } parallels {zo'o } there is a strong indication that it means "veranl irony, not mockery. That's why one unofficial dictionary states that it's verbal irony. > Thanks :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a114b2e6005cd050524ca70f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2015-11-18 3:01 GMT+03:00 la .tamar. <tama.austin@gmail.com>= ;:
coi

My = friend wanted to know if there is an attitudinal for showing sarcasm.
Is there one?

Depends on what y= ou mean by sarcasm. There is "mockery" (the verb {ckasu} ) and verb= al irony.

Given that the proposed interjection= modifier {xo'o} parallels {zo'o} the= re is a strong indication that it means "veranl irony, not mockery. Th= at's why one unofficial dictionary states that it's = verbal irony.


Thanks :)

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