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On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 20:56:13 Ilmen wrote:
> Bonjour,
>=20
> En effet, cela doit =C3=AAtre une erreur de traduction, car {lo} se place
> avant le pr=C3=A9dicat/verbe, et non pas apr=C3=A8s.
>=20
> Indeed, that's likely a translation mistake, as {lo} goes before the
> predicate, and not after it.

Oui, on met {lo} avant et {ku} apr=C3=A8s. Mais je ne dirais pas que {lo} f=
ait un=20
nom d'un verbe. Plut=C3=B4t il fait l'=C3=A9quivalent d'une locution nomina=
le. Beaucoup=20
de choses qui s'expriment par des noms en langues indo-europ=C3=A9ennes s'e=
xpriment=20
en lojban par des verbes. Le vrai nom lojban est ce qu'on met apr=C3=A8s {l=
a}.

Yes, one puts {lo} in front and {ku} after. But I wouldn't say that {lo} ma=
kes=20
a noun out of a verb. Rather it makes the equivalent of a noun phrase. Many=
=20
things which are expressed by nouns in Indo-European languages are expresse=
d=20
in Lojban by verbs. The real Lojban noun is what goes after {la}.

Another typo: =C2=ABles pronoms: ceci, cela=C2=BB, the last word should be =
=C2=ABcel=C3=A0=C2=BB.=20
=C2=ABcela=C2=BB is the past tense of =C2=ABceler=C2=BB, which is "-ceal" a=
s in "conceal".

Pierre
--=20
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

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