Received: from mail-qg0-f64.google.com ([209.85.192.64]:34759) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1aJPHX-0000g4-F1 for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:32:36 -0800 Received: by mail-qg0-f64.google.com with SMTP id 6sf64657606qgy.1 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:32:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x_cmae_category:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=tDzQ8BATc7Mw0DCPJ11yAxb6GN1jTBRpsXjZ4UY6pB0=; b=ts5QjjI0hZUOr6Xjju3QMeGVod41jklY9+/ZIKpsXPAP+BrFaaN4mp7RMGlM0KQD60 1smQhUWDq83tyV3uWNRQ349OqLEzn5rNJpuxbS+oI/5P9tZi062lqB2lePxGC7Ms5yBG Y30WYPN7HEwls2KgnQIp7PRShwpm4unHzLl+ex7dFUJAkAY8kRs/3czpfqPeih6IXqct H26qaoS5oo6VMPMIBaIZUE+H3FAo2jnf9caC407Cn5CC4VnBj1AnzoK1t6u09UbLgJ5S HVoVJD5ORq0r5HuMvtIyNzkDDO6cCsYaBtQaB+L3GjBlOBK/hdGq2o+QGZeMXEgxK+Wp o1fQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:x_cmae_category:from:to:subject:date:message-id :user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=tDzQ8BATc7Mw0DCPJ11yAxb6GN1jTBRpsXjZ4UY6pB0=; b=Fue8HOdpz6BVg3lV7KI4VOSYM4j0tfgKfL2HIWDR1v0o0Q7ZSXgFh1SCUaNZQQI4L0 XXPaR+Pr8V5D9nIDBdAxVV7OilxnSOwMffn2qaosV71tgDadhL3frmKZjTIrcoVqEeQh bu+BKpCClMMJ99EOEtMJO2BRn7C1jp40TI2zIobIGhQWNFJ2vzkm6ICcweAPTuFQ/2jB LAbbgQaA9YUzDu35rxvf6pEujBSP2mae7PJiu30OrJcPpKg3/yJQf4u3WINqjjQOkDYj FxzIdTn6M9npNJ1ou8WguBg6seWGS96yF7STZd9Td4zaYcd51wheG0gJilutIx3fY3qq YeIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkpGCntkMiNkHrN2R7xUXIEMbf7cD/FdRM/yr2sOlYXqW4z7vBL5B4skRMpA5aygmotjlq7GxceNWf6EwUVKjJxqtIw2Q== X-Received: by 10.140.30.75 with SMTP id c69mr1022988qgc.5.1452706341549; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:32:21 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.98.169 with SMTP id o38ls11877619qge.31.gmail; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:32:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.13.213.200 with SMTP id x191mr55481746ywd.50.1452706340360; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp.hughes.net. [69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lr9si215511igb.1.2016.01.13.09.32.20 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=AP42JC7R c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:117 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=7aQ_Q-yQQ-AA:10 a=JG_vhujgBlR6parFIMQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 174.109.123.133 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [174.109.123.133] ([174.109.123.133:39058] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 07/12-13212-32A86965; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:32:19 -0500 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9570C737C for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:32:17 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] How can you directly import an English name? Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:32:14 -0500 Message-ID: <2506185.zFGNhfxnxS@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-74-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <3598d3e0-2abc-44a3-98b3-be776c83efc7@googlegroups.com> References: <3598d3e0-2abc-44a3-98b3-be776c83efc7@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mailfrom=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 09:13:39 Stefan Alecu wrote: > I want to say 'I play EUIV (Europa Universalis IV)', and I have {.i mi > samyzilkeikei ...}, but I don't know how to deal with the last part. How > would you do that? That looks like Latin, not English, to me. If the "IV" is a Roman numeral, = I'd=20 translate it as "von". For the rest, I'd say "la .evropas.universalis." or = "la=20 .evropam.universalem.". "eu" is not a diphthong in Lojban, so we have to do= =20 something with it. "Euskal Herria" I rendered as ".auskalerik." ('k' appear= s=20 in several Basque endings). What do you mean by "play"? It can be translated as "kelci", "tigni", or=20 "javni" for different senses. Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.