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Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:32:41 -0400
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There's a whole category of cmavo, BAI, to add place structures to words
that lack certain ones, and is often used by others to explicitly label
places. So you have to memorize a list of about one hundred additional
words, over and above the selbri themselves.

In all honesty, recalling the place structures isn't all that difficult,
once you start working in the language. I idea of place structures in a
deeply embedded feature of the language, which simplifies utterances over
using expilict BAI tags.


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by evil men." -- Plato
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do
nothing." -- Edmund Burke
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but
because of those who look on and do nothing." -- Albert Einstein
"Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part
of the good." -- Pope Leo XIII, encyclical 'On Christians as Citizens'

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Collin Damskov <collin.damskov@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't know a whole lot about lojban, but it seems to me that it would be
> difficult to learn simply because each selbri has its own implied place
> structures.  Is there no way to encode place structure by using a particle
> or something without reducing grammatical ambiguity?  Why do it this way
> instead of something that doesn't require such intense memorization of
> place structures?  Am I missing something important here?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">There&#39;s a whole category of cmavo, BAI, to add place s=
tructures to words that lack certain ones, and is often used by others to e=
xplicitly label places. So you have to memorize a list of about one hundred=
 additional words, over and above the selbri themselves.<div><br></div><div=
>In all honesty, recalling the place structures isn&#39;t all that difficul=
t, once you start working in the language. I idea of place structures in a =
deeply embedded feature of the language, which simplifies utterances over u=
sing expilict BAI tags.</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"g=
mail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>----</div><div>Bob Slaughter</div><div><a=
 href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/robert.s.slaughter" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.facebook.com/robert.s.slaughter</a>=C2=A0</div><div>&quot;The price =
good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.=
&quot; -- Plato</div><div>&quot;All that is necessary for the triumph of ev=
il is that good men do nothing.&quot; -- Edmund Burke</div><div>&quot;The w=
orld is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of=
 those who look on and do nothing.&quot; -- Albert Einstein</div><div>&quot=
;Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part=
 of the good.&quot; -- Pope Leo XIII, encyclical &#39;On Christians as Citi=
zens&#39;</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Collin Dam=
skov <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:collin.damskov@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">collin.damskov@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex">I don&#39;t know a whole lot about lojban, but it seems=
 to me that it would be difficult to learn simply because each selbri has i=
ts own implied place structures.=C2=A0 Is there no way to encode place stru=
cture by using a particle or something without reducing grammatical ambigui=
ty?=C2=A0 Why do it this way instead of something that doesn&#39;t require =
such intense memorization of place structures?=C2=A0 Am I missing something=
 important here?<br>
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