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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o85si797767wme.0.2016.08.22.00.58.23 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::22e; Received: by mail-lf0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id g62so71578877lfe.3 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:58:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.25.22.152 with SMTP id 24mr5464177lfw.180.1471852702892; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:58:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:58:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54465f94-703e-48f8-8d8b-b0a1622c0ce0@googlegroups.com> References: <54465f94-703e-48f8-8d8b-b0a1622c0ce0@googlegroups.com> From: uakci Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 09:58:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Is Lojban actually learnable? 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Since, at it's core, it's a language, one can gain fluency in it. There already are several Lojbanists who are fluent (and thus grasp the whole sentence at once, think in Lojban and not their native language, etc.). =E2=80=94 mi'e zukte be lo ka jungau mu'o =E2=80=94 On Aug 21, 2016 4:43 PM, "Collin Damskov" wrote: > I know the language can be learned, but I am wondering if it can be > grasped in the same way as other languages? Is it actually possible to > gain a level of fluency in it that you barely have to think about what is > going on when you use it? It is fundamentally different from other > languages, so I wonder if this could be learned in the same way as other > languages. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. 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Obviously, yes. Since, at it's core, it's a language= , one can gain fluency in it. There already are several Lojbanists who are = fluent (and thus grasp the whole sentence at once, think in Lojban and not = their native language, etc.).

=E2=80=94 mi'e zukte be lo ka jungau mu'o =E2=80=94<= /p>


On Aug 21, 2016 4= :43 PM, "Collin Damskov" <collin.damskov@gmail.com> wrote:
I know the language can be learned, but I am wo= ndering if it can be grasped in the same way as other languages?=C2=A0 Is i= t actually possible to gain a level of fluency in it that you barely have t= o think about what is going on when you use it?=C2=A0 It is fundamentally d= ifferent from other languages, so I wonder if this could be learned in the = same way as other languages.

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