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Additionally, if you were to write them out without spaces:

docuprami (or do cuprami),

 the rule is that CV at the beginning of a word that can "fall off" into a
separate word while leaving everything else valid do so.  So in other
words, these would always be interpreted as "do cu prami" and not "do cupra
 mi" If you want the second interpretation you MUST put a space after the a
in the written form, unless you are indicating stress (i.e "doCUprami"
would be legal for "do cupra mi", but please please don't do it.  Also,
some computer parsers will understand this form (e.g.camxes) others won't
(jbofi'e) ).  This is an artifact of the fact that in writing we don't
typically indicate the stress, but let the spaces do it for us.
              --gejyspa


On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 7:05 AM, uakci <ciuak.prog@gmail.com> wrote:

> These two are differentiated by the stress:
>
> do cu PRAmi
> do CUpra mi
>
> ~ uak
>
> On 28 December 2016 at 22:56, Christian Abbott <e.raised.to.pi.i@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Since Lojban is syntactically unambiguous, is one of the following two
>> (phonetically equivalent) utterances grammatically incorrect?  If so, which
>> one and how?
>>
>> do cu prami (You love)
>> do cupra mi (You produce me)
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the help.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Additionally, if you were to write them out without spaces=
:=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>docuprami (or do cuprami),</div><div><br></div><=
div>=C2=A0the rule is that CV at the beginning of a word that can &quot;fal=
l off&quot; into a separate word while leaving everything else valid do so.=
=C2=A0 So in other words, these would always be interpreted as &quot;do cu =
prami&quot; and not &quot;do cupra =C2=A0mi&quot; If you want the second in=
terpretation you MUST put a space after the a in the written form, unless y=
ou are indicating stress (i.e &quot;doCUprami&quot; would be legal for &quo=
t;do cupra mi&quot;, but please please don&#39;t do it.=C2=A0 Also, some co=
mputer parsers will understand this form (e.g.camxes) others won&#39;t (jbo=
fi&#39;e) ).=C2=A0 This is an artifact of the fact that in writing we don&#=
39;t typically indicate the stress, but let the spaces do it for us.<br></d=
iv><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa</div><di=
v><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 7:05 AM, uakci <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ciuak.prog@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ciuak.prog@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">These two are differentiated by the stress:<div><br></div><div>do cu P=
RAmi</div><div>do CUpra mi</div><div><br></div><div>~ uak</div></div><div c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On 28 December 2016 at 22:56, Christian Abbott <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:e.raised.to.pi.i@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">e.raised.to.pi.i@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Since Lojban is syntactically una=
mbiguous, is one of the following two (phonetically equivalent) utterances =
grammatically incorrect?=C2=A0 If so, which one and how?<br><br></div>do cu=
 prami (You love)<br></div>do cupra mi (You produce me)</div><div><br></div=
><div>Thanks in advance for the help.<span class=3D"m_-5710688750103852176H=
OEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></div></div><span class=3D=
"m_-5710688750103852176HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">

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