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[212.227.17.21]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v201si303069wmv.3.2017.02.25.01.44.52 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Feb 2017 01:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.21 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.21; Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([84.190.179.21]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mg0IT-1cvVQ10WzF-00NNYb for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 10:44:52 +0100 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] The pronunciation of "o" To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: From: solpahi Message-ID: <98ac6337-5696-c363-4bd2-13d43b4ca05c@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 10:44:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! 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All of this could have been avoided if the=20 pages had used IPA or linked to sound recordings. Lojban {o} can be pronounced as either IPA [o]=20 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Close-mid_back_rounded= _vowel.ogg)=20 or IPA [=C9=94]=20 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Open-mid_back_rounded_= vowel.ogg).=20 The diphthong in "boat","throat" etc. should not be used for {o}. ~~~mi'e la solpa'i --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren gepr=C3=BCft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.