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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] The pronunciation of "o"
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Em s=C3=A1bado, 25 de fevereiro de 2017 12:44:54 UTC+3, selpa'i escreveu:
>
> I understand your confusion. All of this could have been avoided if the=
=20
> pages had used IPA or linked to sound recordings.=20
>

If la cirkotci incorrectly utters {o} then we need a new recording.
=20

>
> Lojban {o} can be pronounced as either IPA [o]=20
> (
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Close-mid_back_rounde=
d_vowel.ogg)=20
>
> or IPA [=C9=94]=20
> (
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Open-mid_back_rounded=
_vowel.ogg).=20
>
>
>
> The diphthong in "boat","throat" etc. should not be used for {o}.=20
>
> ~~~mi'e la solpa'i=20
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>Em s=C3=A1bado, 25 de fevereiro de 2017 12:44:54 U=
TC+3, selpa&#39;i  escreveu:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">I =
understand your confusion. All of this could have been avoided if the=20
<br>pages had used IPA or linked to sound recordings.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If la cirkotci incorrectly utters {o} =
then we need a new recording.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Lojban {o} can be pronounced as either IPA [o]=20
<br>(<a href=3D"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Close-m=
id_back_rounded_vowel.ogg" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=
=3D"this.href=3D&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fupload.w=
ikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F8%2F84%2FClose-mid_back_rounded_vowel.=
ogg\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFfZA6gvSjF-k-4NQEGfU-LGWqezA=
9;;return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x=
3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F8%2F84%2FClose=
-mid_back_rounded_vowel.ogg\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFfZA6gv=
SjF-k-4NQEGfU-LGWqezA&#39;;return true;">https://upload.wikimedia.org/<wbr>=
wikipedia/commons/8/84/Close-<wbr>mid_back_rounded_vowel.ogg</a>)=20
<br>or IPA [=C9=94]=20
<br>(<a href=3D"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Open-mi=
d_back_rounded_vowel.ogg" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D=
"this.href=3D&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fupload.wiki=
media.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F0%2F02%2FOpen-mid_back_rounded_vowel.ogg\=
x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFnebm6SQp5OSKmiMzm8YxN8pQjzw&#39;;r=
eturn true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dht=
tps%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F0%2F02%2FOpen-mid_=
back_rounded_vowel.ogg\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFnebm6SQp5OS=
KmiMzm8YxN8pQjzw&#39;;return true;">https://upload.wikimedia.org/<wbr>wikip=
edia/commons/0/02/Open-<wbr>mid_back_rounded_vowel.ogg</a>).=20
<br>
<br>
<br>The diphthong in &quot;boat&quot;,&quot;throat&quot; etc. should not be=
 used for {o}.
<br>
<br>~~~mi&#39;e la solpa&#39;i
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