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[2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 80si565770qkb.3.2017.10.27.21.44.04 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e; Received: by mail-vk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id g69so5309181vke.5 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:44:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.31.135.17 with SMTP id j17mr2087210vkd.34.1509165844194; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:44:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alex Rozenshteyn Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 04:43:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Natural example of "le" To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1145652c0ced9c055c940e9b" X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=q0U8k8Zy; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rpglover64@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1145652c0ced9c055c940e9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Now I'm wondering if there's a way to translate "Are 'magic' and 'candy' magic and candy, respectively?" I thought I could use termsets, but you can't put selbri in a termset. <.i xu le makfa cu makfa .ije le titspi cu titspi> sounds more redundant. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:43 PM Michael Turniansky wrote: > FWIW, I agree. > --gejyspa > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 PM, .arpis. > wrote: > >> I've been away from lojban for years now. I'm posting because I ran into >> what I think is a cool bit of expressivity in "le" vs "lo". My wife asked >> me to boil water and make her some tea; when I asked which tea, she >> responded with "'Candy' or 'magic'." These are not names of the teas, but >> just ways we refer to them. I think this would translate well as "le >> titspi" and "le makfa", and that those would be more faithful than using >> "la". >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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Now I'm wondering if there's a way to translate &q= uot;Are 'magic' and 'candy' magic and candy, respectively?&= quot; I thought I could use termsets, but <za'a ju'o cu'i>= ; you can't put selbri in a termset. <.i xu le makfa cu makfa .ije l= e titspi cu titspi> sounds more redundant.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:43 PM Michael Turniansky = <mturniansky@gmail.com> = wrote:
=C2=A0 FWIW= , I agree.
=C2=A0 --gejyspa

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On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 PM, .arpis. <rpgl= over64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
I've been away from lojban for years now. I'm posting = because I ran into what I think is a cool bit of expressivity in "le&q= uot; vs "lo". My wife asked me to boil water and make her some te= a; when I asked which tea, she responded with "'Candy' or '= ;magic'." These are not names of the teas, but just ways we refer = to them. I think this would translate well as "le titspi" and &qu= ot;le makfa", and that those would be more faithful than using "l= a".

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