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ki'e sai .i .ue mi gasfli zo fa'u

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 7:49 AM Adam Lopresto <adamlopresto@gmail.com>
wrote:

> .i xu le makfa fa'u le titspi cu makfa fa'u titspi
>
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 11:44 PM Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Now I'm wondering if there's a way to translate "Are 'magic' and 'candy'
>> magic and candy, respectively?" I thought I could use termsets, but <za'a
>> ju'o cu'i> you can't put selbri in a termset. <.i xu le makfa cu makfa .ije
>> le titspi cu titspi> sounds more redundant.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:43 PM Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   FWIW, I agree.
>>>   --gejyspa
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been away from lojban for years now. I'm posting because I ran
>>>> into what I think is a cool bit of expressivity in "le" vs "lo". My wife
>>>> asked me to boil water and make her some tea; when I asked which tea, she
>>>> responded with "'Candy' or 'magic'." These are not names of the teas, but
>>>> just ways we refer to them. I think this would translate well as "le
>>>> titspi" and "le makfa", and that those would be more faithful than using
>>>> "la".
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">ki&#39;e sai .i .ue mi gasfli zo fa&#39;u</div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 7:49 AM Adam L=
opresto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adamlopresto@gmail.com">adamlopresto@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">.i =
xu le makfa fa&#39;u le titspi cu makfa fa&#39;u titspi</p>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 11:44=
 PM Alex Rozenshteyn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">rpglover64@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Now I&#39;m wondering if there&#39;s a way to tra=
nslate &quot;Are &#39;magic&#39; and &#39;candy&#39; magic and candy, respe=
ctively?&quot; I thought I could use termsets, but &lt;za&#39;a ju&#39;o cu=
&#39;i&gt; you can&#39;t put selbri in a termset. &lt;.i xu le makfa cu mak=
fa .ije le titspi cu titspi&gt; sounds more redundant.</div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:43 PM Michael T=
urniansky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mt=
urniansky@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 FWIW, I agree.<div>=C2=A0 --gejyspa</div></div><div=
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s=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 =
PM, .arpis. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64+jbobau@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been away from lojban for=
 years now. I&#39;m posting because I ran into what I think is a cool bit o=
f expressivity in &quot;le&quot; vs &quot;lo&quot;. My wife asked me to boi=
l water and make her some tea; when I asked which tea, she responded with &=
quot;&#39;Candy&#39; or &#39;magic&#39;.&quot; These are not names of the t=
eas, but just ways we refer to them. I think this would translate well as &=
quot;le titspi&quot; and &quot;le makfa&quot;, and that those would be more=
 faithful than using &quot;la&quot;.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div></di=
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25583HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">

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