Received: from mail-ua0-f191.google.com ([209.85.217.191]:57712) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e8kzc-0002ql-PW for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 03:39:02 -0700 Received: by mail-ua0-f191.google.com with SMTP id 10sf7434760uav.16 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 03:39:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=cMe+5wLmuzIfKpjxRkUACJ7DeF8bTWwQi5j37T3KP8g=; b=eNKqPlqVKruekfNQv0LjW0YmJfplH/TkCk4O6NfoB4Ag5olNB8MfektRtYSZcEl6q8 U5+ObiQEPLB83KDR/aQeCJRYkh1IDipajecT0426+rPyS14cN6zddlbfvMr65v3JXC39 L8yRnAqBC4kYtUldREBhG1W5K5sNc6KgKUIjqZYduyaC9dGHm3baUMsqjxy6BBvSUoDu epYf5RxLGDWv6PCanRYHRGymqo6sQN9Ivja9dP7bRBFXuCUTDtGk8aQMloPNi878P36o xbpiBLfWPu4fm6aX+ry9HWd6FCaEMap8IOTzHMXGUFo/VecIzBBoBDovTib627FTnP2F 0Ajg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=cMe+5wLmuzIfKpjxRkUACJ7DeF8bTWwQi5j37T3KP8g=; b=a/EFXrfXF5tOGvB/o/ZDQuFaFNIBLqt9/bGgITY/Pbr+VY8f1d39IuofzZfIr+ZWoy /nfF3I9OHkwwZYzxfDuyXqYdKbhuxn1yXJuo7vn2yueZRCNio5Ew3FJz9TNd2/icbCov A9U/TbnndDzyTdlzoahwOBgm28S03u1YDd1tjBm5vu1l91GqKdLkMyxabfwEkDoyb3SU yBx0aZ9D8o5n8qEu3JqFnrE1wPxZIeZrWDV8U5Q17ftW8HrDT/lMiaMYW/XoUvJXgmZO Bgg2YsJJnBaFIPXYB8grCH1y6CgHfUu448M29nDNpMZ1OJFpli0gjwGXMdPT9UqVNY94 XiGg== Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXzldy49nvFnsduUf37MaLbEFHOSvGJlB/8BIGrv04fCttw59h/ iPCdBDXXUAlKe14N15p1YWs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+ROGf/QoP+YNf6HmdoP9D2ldJZd7QJyNxBZSU9WM5+KxC6Uwbq6qSI8EEwUnmmjPzpPoUOU1w== X-Received: by 10.31.153.21 with SMTP id b21mr1286668vke.13.1509273534446; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 03:38:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.129.112.67 with SMTP id l64ls797385ywc.17.gmail; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 03:38:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.13.207.68 with SMTP id r65mr13528047ywd.150.1509273533194; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 03:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.129.122.149 with SMTP id v143msywc; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 14:55:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.31.69.204 with SMTP id s195mr1141715vka.12.1509227745496; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 14:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 14:55:45 -0700 (PDT) From: shadowfirebird@gmail.com To: Lojban Beginners Message-Id: <5aad39ec-2fc0-4f19-a70d-a98a5fdbfb52@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] except for MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_7314_1739085592.1509227745152" X-Original-Sender: shadowfirebird@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.5 X-Spam_score_int: -24 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_7314_1739085592.1509227745152 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7315_49453344.1509227745206" ------=_Part_7315_49453344.1509227745206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm way out of my depth here. Can someone give me some pointers on how to say "except for"? Example: "Except for eels, I like all fish". Is this some sort of relative clause that I've not seen? I see *da'a* for "everything except", but it's only supposed to take a number? or can I use *panra* -- x1 is similar to x2 differing only by x3? *"i lo angila te panra** me nelci lo finpe" *? But I think that's "I'm similar to liking (fish except eels)"?! Maybe I should go back to the Dick and Jane stuff for the moment... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_7315_49453344.1509227745206 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm way out of my depth = here.=C2=A0 Can someone give me some pointers on how to say "except fo= r"? Example: "Except for eels, I like all fish".

=C2= =A0Is this some sort of relative clause that I've not seen?

I se= e da'a for "everything except", but it's only supp= osed to take a number?

or can I use panra -- x1 is similar to= x2 differing only by x3? "i lo angila te panra me nelci lo = finpe" ? But I think that's "I'm similar to liking (f= ish except eels)"?!

Maybe I should go back to the Dick and Jane= stuff for the moment...


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