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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:05:07 +0100
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On 30.10.2017 05:50, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:46:56 AM EDT solpahi wrote:
>> "everything except for X" is equivalent to "everything that is not X".
>> The usual way to express this in Lojban is:
>>
>>      mi nelci ro    finpe poi   [ke'a] na .angila
>>      I  like  every fish  which [it]   not eel
>>      "I like every fish except for eels."
>>
>> When you have referents that are the exception, then {po'u nai} can be
>> used to save space:
>>
>>      mi nelci ro finpe po'u nai ti
>>      "I like every fish except for this one."
>>
>> ({po'u nai} is short for {poi ke'a na du})
>=20
> Both jbofi'e and camxes (at http://camxes.lojban.org) reject "po'unai". I=
s
> there a newer version that accepts it?

The "beta" and "experimental" options at=20
http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html accept it.

It is also accepted by zantufa=20
(http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.html).

Allowing NAI after any word is a well-known proposal (see=20
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/move_NAI_to_CAI). This simplification is in=20
common use.

~~~mi'e la solpa'i

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