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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_53957_168810039.1528396952746" X-Original-Sender: la.xabju@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.2 X-Spam_score_int: -31 X-Spam_bar: --- ------=_Part_53957_168810039.1528396952746 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_53958_996814464.1528396952746" ------=_Part_53958_996814464.1528396952746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you both for answering my question. On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:29:50 AM UTC-4, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > I would personally read it as "xy boi xi pa..." > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:45 AM, Pierre Abbat > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22.44.45 EDT xabju wrote: >> > .coi >> > >> > I'm wondering how one would read this (or any definition) aloud in >> Lojban: >> > "x1 klani x2 lo ka lo xo kau jdini be x3 ke ralju gradu cu vamji ce'u". >> How >> > does one say "x1", "x2", and "x3"? >> >> Here are two options: >> *xy pa klani xy re li'o >> *ko'a klani ko'e li'o >> The second breaks down if there are more than ten places, at which point >> you >> have to use "xi". >> >> If there's an equals sign in the definition, you can read it as "goi": >> xy pa goi fy pa finpe xy re goi fy re gi'e limna fi'o galtu xy ci goi my >> pa >> >> mu'omi'e .piier. >> -- >> sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginne...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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Thank you both for answering my question.

On Wednes= day, June 6, 2018 at 9:29:50 AM UTC-4, Michael Turniansky wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I would=C2= =A0 personally read it as "xy boi xi pa..."

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:45 AM, Pierre Abbat <ph...@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22.44.45 EDT xabju wrote:
> .coi
>
> I'm wondering how one would read this (or any definition) aloud in= Lojban:
> "x1 klani x2 lo ka lo xo kau jdini be x3 ke ralju gradu cu vamji = ce'u". How
> does one say "x1", "x2", and "x3"?

Here are two options:
*xy pa klani xy re li'o
*ko'a klani ko'e li'o
The second breaks down if there are more than ten places, at which point yo= u
have to use "xi".

If there's an equals sign in the definition, you can read it as "g= oi":
xy pa goi fy pa finpe xy re goi fy re gi'e limna fi'o galtu xy ci g= oi my pa

mu'omi'e .piier.
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