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To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: <67d2d2b2-f386-4309-91fd-2eabbcf6aeb8@googlegroups.com> From: Ilmen Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:21:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <67d2d2b2-f386-4309-91fd-2eabbcf6aeb8@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180624-4, 24/06/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Original-Sender: ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=CyGwT0ZT; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.3 X-Spam_score_int: -32 X-Spam_bar: --- Traditionally those were read as {xy xi pa}, {xy xi re}, {xy xi ci} etc.=20 You can alternatively say {fa bu}, {fe bu}, {fi bu} and so on (this=20 method has seen some usage). Finally, you can also use {ce'u} in the=20 following way: {lo ka ce'u kampu ce'u cu ka ce'u se ckaji ro ce'u} =E2=80= =94=20 "[x1 kampu x2] =3D [x1 se ckaji ro x2]". =E2=80=94Ilmen. xabju wrote : > .coi > > I'm wondering how one would read this (or any definition) aloud in=20 > Lojban: "x1 klani x2 lo ka lo xo kau jdini be x3 ke ralju gradu cu=20 > vamji ce'u". How does one say "x1", "x2", and "x3"? > > .io mi'e la xabju --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier =C3=A9lectronique a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 v=C3= =A9rifi=C3=A9e par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. 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