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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v124-v6si25618wma.2.2018.06.29.03.37.02 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 29 Jun 2018 03:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mustafaipekbayrak@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::22c; Received: by mail-lf0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id g21-v6so6455631lfb.4 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 03:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a19:c403:: with SMTP id u3-v6mr9062193lff.87.1530268621868; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 03:37:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a19:99c5:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2018 03:37:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3878644.uymdu2CfxZ@mooncat> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Mustafa_=C4=B0pekbayrak?= Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:37:01 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] sports terms To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009e1721056fc56d26" X-Original-Sender: mustafaipekbayrak@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b="GU4UobB/"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mustafaipekbayrak@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mustafaipekbayrak@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.5 X-Spam_score_int: -24 X-Spam_bar: -- --0000000000009e1721056fc56d26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you so much. I wonder if we create words, how other lojban speaker understand what does it mean? I mean is there any algorithm to create new lojban word? ca'ersezlafti seems a little bit long. I was thinking about using ga'u catke for push up but isn't it a English language oriented word? When I create a new word privately I feel like I am preparing a new sacret language. On 22 June 2018 at 20:23, MorphemeAddict wrote: > Words can be created and used without adding them first to jbovlaste. > > stevo > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Thursday, 21 June 2018 03.44.45 EDT Mustafa =C4=B0pekbayrak wrote: >> > coi ro do >> > I love jbovlaste.lojban.org, however I cannot find what I want many >> times. >> > For example I want to write that I did six push ups in a day. I don't >> know >> > how to say push ups or pull ups. >> > How can we learn sports terms for lojban? Should we create them by >> > ourselves? >> >> We should create them. The first thing I came up with is {ca'ersezlafti}= , >> but >> it seems a bit long. >> >> Pierre >> -- >> Don't buy a French car in Holland. 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Thank you so much.=C2=A0
I wonder if we create words, = how other lojban speaker understand what does it mean?
I mean is = there any algorithm to create new lojban word?
ca'ersezlafti=C2=A0 seems a little bit long. I was thinking a= bout using ga'u catke for push up but isn't it a English language o= riented word?
When I create a new word privately I feel like = I am preparing a new sacret language.=C2=A0

On 22 June 2018 at 20:23, MorphemeAdd= ict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
Words can be created and used without adding them first= to jbovlaste.=C2=A0

stevo

On = Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Thursday, 21 June 2018= 03.44.45 EDT Mustafa =C4=B0pekbayrak wrote:
> coi ro do
> I love jbovlaste.lojban.org, however I cannot find what I want m= any times.
> For example I want to write that I did six push ups in a day. I don= 9;t know
> how to say push ups or pull ups.
> How can we learn sports terms for lojban? Should we create them by
> ourselves?

We should create them. The first thing I came up with is {ca'ers= ezlafti}, but
it seems a bit long.

Pierre
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