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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a18si473055pjo.1.2019.09.06.19.01.39 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Sep 2019 19:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of la.xabju@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c; Received: by mail-qk1-x72c.google.com with SMTP id i78so7640407qke.11 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 19:01:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a37:f50a:: with SMTP id l10mr11627220qkk.196.1567821698230; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 19:01:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3360208.k7pEfAnmia@mooncat> In-Reply-To: From: Xabju Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:01:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Is this tongue-twister grammatical? 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On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 21:55 Xabju wrote: > Thank you. What kind of word (the missing subject) should appear between > "sy." and "ckaji" if the order were kept the same? > > Just to be clarify, all that was needed was "sy." and "ca" switching > places, right? That's great -- preserves the meter. > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 20:16 Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Friday, 6 September 2019 18.56.42 EDT Xabju wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > Beginner here looking for some help. Wondering if this nonsensical verse >> > parses: >> > >> > le skaci cakcinki cu sakcti ci cidja >> > .i je ca sy. ckaji ci skaci selcitka >> > >> > >> > It should read, "The 'skirt-beetle' suckingly eats three foods, and it >> is >> > now characterized by three skirtish eaten-things." >> >> It does parse, but I think you mean ".ije sy. ca ckaji". "ca sy. ckaji" >> means >> "when it, [missing subject] is characterized". >> >> Pierre >> >> -- >> i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do >> ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga >> icu'u la ma'atman. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lojban-beginners/3360208.k7pEfAnmia%40mooncat >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lojban-beginners/CAEZ9zCZm54GQTp7vA9oDi%2BfKsKkYBQDa%3D%3DD-0J93%2BUFeA7vrfA%40mail.gmail.com. --00000000000064ed7b0591ecef90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was also unsure if "sy." was the correct= way to refer to "le skaci cakcinki", or if it should be "cy= ."

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 21:55 Xabju <la.xabju@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you. What kind of word (the missing subjec= t) should appear between "sy." and "ckaji" if the order= were kept the same?

Just to b= e clarify, all that was needed was "sy." and "ca" switc= hing places, right? That's great -- preserves the meter.

On Fri, Sep 6, = 2019, 20:16 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
=
On Friday, 6 September 2019 18.56.42 E= DT Xabju wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Beginner here looking for some help. Wondering if this nonsensical ver= se
> parses:
>
> le skaci cakcinki cu sakcti ci cidja
> .i je ca sy. ckaji ci skaci selcitka
>
>
> It should read, "The 'skirt-beetle' suckingly eats three = foods, and it is
> now characterized by three skirtish eaten-things."

It does parse, but I think you mean ".ije sy. ca ckaji". "ca= sy. ckaji" means
"when it, [missing subject] is characterized".

Pierre

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i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
icu'u la ma'atman.



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