From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Sat Feb 01 11:12:56 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18f34R-0006wm-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:12:55 -0800 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:12:55 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Greetings, and commands Message-ID: <20030201191255.GK13520@digitalkingdom.org> References: <67E894BA4AB90F4781580985A5FAF32E16986E@rachael.letnet.net> <20030201010726.GI9156@digitalkingdom.org> <3E3B4CF0.7090501@bilkent.edu.tr> <20030201081643.GC22249@mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030201081643.GC22249@mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 40 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 03:16:43AM -0500, Rob Speer wrote: > On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 06:28:32AM +0200, robin wrote: > > Or e'u, if you want to be really polite. > > You've just hit on my ranting topic. > > Lojban words do not have politeness levels built in (unless the word > in question is "ga'i"). As usage of the language increases, some words > may acquire polite or impolite connotations, but it's wrong to assume > that "e'u" is more polite than "ei" just because their English > translations work that way. When used as a *command*, a suggestion seems to me to be obviously more polite by default than a statement of obligation. Not so in other cases, of course. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi