From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Mon Feb 10 10:37:05 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iIng-0005A5-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:37:04 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:37:04 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: tanru/lujvo for [name] type of thing? Message-ID: <20030210183704.GZ16074@digitalkingdom.org> References: <2631311C-3CE8-11D7-B0CD-000393B76BE4@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2631311C-3CE8-11D7-B0CD-000393B76BE4@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 77 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 12:09:40PM +0100, Jan Pilgenroeder wrote: > I need to say something like e.g.: "A Luhmann type-of Observation is > the drawing of a distiction between two states and the marking of one > of the states" and I would like the place structure to be X1= the > operation of observing, X2= the marked state, X3= the unmarked state, > X4= the observing system (a human mind or a communications-system e.g. > science or an organisation). lojbab has already spoken to using broda (which wouldn't have occured to me; thanks Bob). Here's how you define the place structure above. Or one way, at least, assuming broda has been bound to "me la luman." or something. zo rodzga cu bridi le si'o da .e de vu'o poi tcini zo'u karbi da de gi'e tcitygau fi pa da ce de kei le zgana se zukte ku ce'o le tcita tcini ku ce'o le na tcica tcini ku ce'o le zgana ciste I've seen essentially no attempts to define lojban words in lojban, though, so take anything anyone says about this with a grain of salt. -Robin PS: Damn you, LALR(1). I mean, yeesh, if we did LALR(2) we wouldn't need those ku tags. 8P -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi