From lojban@65536.org Wed Feb 12 06:36:21 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ixzm-0005Rk-00 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:36:18 -0800 Received: from [212.227.126.202] (helo=mrvnet.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ixzl-0001ir-00 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:36:17 +0100 Received: from [172.23.4.134] (helo=config7.kundenserver.de) by mrvnet.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ixzk-0006he-00 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:36:16 +0100 Received: from www-data by config7.kundenserver.de with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ixzk-0003oR-00 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:36:16 +0100 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Gismu creation From: lojban@65536.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-From: 5391625 Received: from 217.87.14.174 by webmail.puretec.de via HTTP X-Binford: 6100 (more power) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:36:16 +0100 X-archive-position: 93 X-Approved-By: lojban@65536.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: lojban@65536.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners coi rodo I just started to read the Lojban Reference Grammar and I stumbled across the gismu creation. Does anybody know where you can find a complete list of gimus together (!) with the source words from Chinese, English, ... and their scorings? Anything about the process how the 1436 gismus were created? By the way why are words like {pa}, {nu}, {se} listed as gismu? I thought a gismu has always the form CVCCV or CCVCV. mu'o mi'e .iens.