From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Feb 12 06:59:36 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from f216.law8.hotmail.com ([216.33.241.216] helo=hotmail.com) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iyMI-0006yZ-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:59:34 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:59:04 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:59:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] From: "Jorge Llambias" To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A problem with cu Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:59:04 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2003 14:59:04.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[48F6F230:01C2D2A7] X-archive-position: 96 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners la iens cusku di'e >Let's see whether I understand it. > >{le cilre cu xamgu} - learning is good "The learner is good." {lo'e nu cilre cu xamgu} - learning is good. >{le cilre xamgu} - (a tanru I cannot translate) "The learner good". Just a bit odd. But: {le xunre cukta} - the red book. >{lenu mi cilre cu xamgu} - the event of my learning is good Right. >{lenu mi cilre xamgu} - the event of my doing (tanru) The event of my beig a learner good. Similar to "my being a good learner". >{lenu mi cilre zo'e cu xamgu} - the event of my learning something > is good Yes. {zo'e} is not really necessary. >In the last sentence I need {cu} because {lenu zo'e (selbri) >zo'e ...} is always another selbri. But this selbri doesn't have >x1, x2, ... like gismus. (?) It has the same arguments as the last component. {broda brode} has the place structure of brode. For example: xunre cukta: x1 is a red book about subject x2 by author x3 etc. >mu'o mi'e .iens. >(Is {ki'e mu'o mi'e .iens.} something like {Thanks, ...}?) Yes! mu'o mi'e xorkes _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus