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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Usage of {vi}
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coi rodo

I have just worked trough "Time and Space" of Lojban for Beginners
and have made some "observations", but I am not sure whether they
are correct?

{mi sanli ri'i vi do} should be be "I stand just to the right of
you." But the usage of the {vi} troubles me. Does {vi} really
take an object/action/person and it becomes "here where the
object/person is" or "here where the action took place"? It sounds
a little bit strange to say {vi lenu mi jbena} - "here at the
event to me beeing born".

Apart from that, I think I have found some minor mistakes is
"Lojban for Beginners", but I'm not sure wheter they really are
mistakes:

6th chapter/Time with sumti, file less6sumtime.html, first
Lojban sentence should be {la jan. cliva le barja ti'u la daucac.}

6th chapter/Space, file less6space.html, introduction of word
{ri'u}: the {.i} is missing in {la bil. sanli ri'u vi ku .i
la bil. ri'u vi sanli}

mi'e .iens. mu'o