From ptg_thug@yahoo.com Wed Apr 23 09:48:25 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13007.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.17]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 198NQ1-0006Vp-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 09:48:25 -0700 Message-ID: <20030423164824.5213.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.162.0.44] by web13007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 09:48:24 PDT Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 09:48:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Travis Garris Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A Newbie's First Impressions To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org In-Reply-To: <3EA6D715.28884.224BA19@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 243 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: ptg_thug@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners --- Philip Newton wrote: > You can get collisions with .y'y., then; "paxa" (16) I had been pronouncing xa and ze kind of like sa and se, maybe a little more buzz than hiss. I'll have to listen to the sound files when I get back to the apartment. Someone mentioned that the beginner's guide had a good section on how things were pronounced. It is good, if you are used to that sort of thing. I've been told that my French accent is pretty good. It's purely mimic. I don't usually correctly pronounce French words that I've never seen before. I just suck at phonetics. Paxa brings up another thing sticks in my craw. I like saying two tens and two better than saying two two. English (and French) do this for some numbers, but grossly break this idea for others. We are a 10 digit (read: finger) people. It makes sense that we have a base 10 system for everyday use. Given that, I'd much rather say one ten and six, and one ten and two instead of six and ten, and twelve, respectively (French starts breaking on the upper end with four double ten and two). That is just a small rant though, and I won't worry about bending Lojban to my whims until I'm much more accomplished in it (here is a big plus for Lojban, attitudinal words, since I'm not a big fan of smileys, I just don't know what the tongue-in-cheek version of .u'i is). Travis Garris Durham, NC, USA __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com