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Chris Evans wrote, concerning {x}:

> Techinically, it's a "voiced k".  But,
>
>  
>
Whatever it is, it certainly isn't voiced. If you compare these sequences:

poo   pfoo    foo
tart   chart    shark
k       kx       x

x bears the same relation to k as f does to p. It is an unvoiced 
(wherever k is pronounced) fricative.

Greg