From eye_onus@yahoo.com Thu Apr 24 14:43:21 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web10903.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.39]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 198oUz-0007py-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:43:21 -0700 Message-ID: <20030424214321.25178.qmail@web10903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [132.178.218.251] by web10903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:43:21 PDT Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:43:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jon MacLeod Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A Newbie's First Impressions To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org In-Reply-To: <3EA6F884.2090309@bluewin.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 252 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: eye_onus@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners --- G Dyke wrote: > Chris Evans wrote, concerning {x}: > > > Techinically, it's a "voiced k". But, > > > > > > > Whatever it is, it certainly isn't voiced. If you compare these sequences: > > poo pfoo foo > tart chart shark > k kx x > > x bears the same relation to k as f does to p. It is an unvoiced > (wherever k is pronounced) fricative. > > Greg > > > Yes, but the 'x' sound in Lojban isn't 'kx', it's 'kh'. Go find a scotsman and ask him to say 'Loch Ness'. He won't say it 'Lock Ness', but 'Loh(throat clearing sound) Ness'. -Jon ===== "I have a brain, I've just lost my mind." -Ian McLeod -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.1 GSC>$ d+(++) s++:-- a-- C++ UL P L>+++ !E W+(++) N++ o? K- !w--- O- M@ V? PS+++ PE- Y+ PGP- t+ !5 X(+) R+ !tv-- b+++ DI+ D+ G e* h* r-(%) y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com