From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Fri May 02 10:26:14 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 May 2003 10:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19BeIY-0004qP-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 02 May 2003 10:26:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 10:26:14 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Prose & Cacophony Message-ID: <20030502172614.GH6079@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20030502145404.26903.qmail@web40507.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030502145404.26903.qmail@web40507.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 285 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 07:54:04AM -0700, Guillermo Alc?ntara wrote: > > coi mi'e .eipipuz > > For a while I've been lurking lojban lists and yesterday I at last > tried to write something on lojban. I wanted a new mail signature, > kind of getting a quote. > > na'e darsi le nu djica Non-audacity, the desire > tu'a le solri cu zvati le nicte lu'u that something to do with the sun is at the nighttime (unnecessary lu'u) > ki'u le nu le kayjau le tarci cu mipri With reason the tears (you want *kal*jau, btw) the star(s) hide. > It stands, or tries to be something similar to: > > Dare not to long, > the sun at night, > 'cause tears hide stars. Close enough for a first try. > First of all I don't know if it's grammatically correct. It is when you fix kayjau. > Second, I want opinions to give the utterance a better shape, like > lojban golf as someone pointed out. Lojban golf? > Third, don't know if it should have "ko" at the beginning if my > intention is to have a mood as "know thyself". That phrase would > be "ko djuna ko"? Or ko djuna do. But yes, you want ko. Here's how I would do it, make of it what you will: ko na darsi djica le solri ca loi nicte ki'u le du'u loi kaljau cu mipri loi tarci > Forth, for me at least the part "ki'u le nu le ..." is a bit > cacophonic is there a way out of it? Umm, yes: .i krinu la'e di'u fa le nu le ... or .i le nu le ... cu krinu la'e di'u or something. > Once I read that terminators are elidible to avoid sounding "ku ku > cu"... Depends on the situation. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi