From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Sat May 31 17:44:26 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 31 May 2003 17:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41902.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.153]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19MGxW-0000rn-00 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 31 May 2003 17:44:26 -0700 Message-ID: <20030601004356.54680.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.5.29] by web41902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2003 17:43:56 PDT Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:43:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: le mi mlatu To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org In-Reply-To: <20030531030009.GA12738@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 363 X-Approved-By: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners la xavier cusku di'e > la brus. cusku di'e: > > i. la .umal. goi cmalu mlatu pe mi > > Your meaning is clear, but I think you must specify which pro-sumti you > are defining. Thus, {la .umal. goi ko'a cmalu mlatu pe mi}. the {pe mi} > at the end strikes me as incorrect, but I can't tell you the correct > usage. Right, {pe mi} can only attach to a sumti, not to a selbri. You can say: la umal du le cmalu mlatu pe mi (= le mi cmalu mlatu) Oumma is the small cat of mine. or, if you prefer to say it with selbri, you could say: la umal cmalu mlatu gi'e memimoi Oumma is a small cat and is mine. > > i. ko'a rinsa mi na'o mi klama se mi xabju > > I think you misordered a few things and dropped a modal here, {ko'a na'o > rinsa mi ki'u mi klama le mi se xabju}. After {ki'u} you need a sumti, so {ki'u le nu mi klama ...}. {na'o} is a valid sumti tcita too, so you could say: ko'a rinsa mi na'o lo'e nu mi klama le mi se xabju although it is not as yet quite clear what the semantics of the complement of no'a as sumti tcita should be. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com