From zefram@fysh.org Tue Feb 24 02:09:05 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.167.170.152] (helo=bowl.fysh.org ident=mail) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AvZUs-0005yx-Ut for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 02:09:03 -0800 Received: from zefram by bowl.fysh.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AvZUr-0003WK-00 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:09:01 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:09:01 +0000 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: precise definition of cmene Message-ID: <20040224100901.GA10169@fysh.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: Zefram X-archive-position: 513 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: zefram@fysh.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners melissa@fastanimals.com wrote: >"la serinus.serinus.kanarias."? It takes the "la" article, and is formed >like a name. But in what way does this not stand for a class of things? "la serinus.serinus.kanarias." refers to a species. A species is an individual entity, with its own name. >la dinas. gerku la mutt "la mut." (remember, cmene are formed phonetically) would not refer to any individual entity, and so is not a valid usage. -zefram