From melissa@fastanimals.com Fri Feb 27 13:08:44 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [216.127.72.21] (helo=www.simlifecycle.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AwpDw-0001EY-I2 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:08:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (melissa@localhost) by www.simlifecycle.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i1RKP7c26033 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:25:07 -0600 Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:25:07 -0600 (CST) From: melissa@fastanimals.com X-X-Sender: melissa@www.simlifecycle.com To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1077911100.2D444413@w5.dngr.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 534 X-Approved-By: melissa@fastanimals.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: melissa@fastanimals.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Daniel E Huston wrote: re "mi dunda ma ko" > As a stage magician, this might be how I indicate to my volunteer to > pick a card from those spread in my hand. But why would you use "ma" instead of the term for a card? Does not "ma" request the hearer to fill in its meaning? I suppose this would make sense if you're simultaneously requesting the listener to announce the card's value. E.g., you already determined the correct card and want him to confirm that it's the same card. > You're thinking in terms of English; don't be surprised if in Lojban you > can phrase sentences that aren't easily rendered in English. Lojban > words do not form the same "parts of speech" as English, so why should > we expect to marshal them the same way? I don't. I just can't think in Lojban yet. Give me a few more weeks. :-) -- mylisys XOLynswyrt mi tadni la lojban