From MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Wed Mar 24 02:39:07 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.3]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B65mt-0001v6-Db for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 02:39:07 -0800 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.2.) id j.1e2.1c0d9b4a (3996) for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 05:38:33 -0500 (EST) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: <1e2.1c0d9b4a.2d92bf29@wmconnect.com> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 05:38:33 EST Subject: [lojban-beginners] lojban vs. klingon To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e2.1c0d9b4a.2d92bf29_boundary" X-archive-position: 619 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners --part1_1e2.1c0d9b4a.2d92bf29_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2004-03-24 5:21:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org (bob) writes: > How do you compare the learning of Klingon with Lojban? Do you notice any > difference in the ability grab grammar or vocabulary? Just curious, because > to > the vocabulary of each is about the same difficulty for me. klingon grammar is much easier though. lojban has umpty gazillion cmavo in 80 or so selma'o. klingon affixes are about 60 suffixes and a half-dozen conjunctions, plus about 40 verb prefixes (designating the person of subject and object together). hard to learn, but not hard to understand. lojban grammar, with its attempt to cover logic, is a lot harder for me. but the incompleteness of vocab in both is a problem too, although much more serious in klingon. stevo --part1_1e2.1c0d9b4a.2d92bf29_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 2004-03-24 5:21:56=20= AM Eastern Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org (bob) writes:


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the vocabulary of each is about the same difficulty for me.  k= lingon grammar is much easier though.  lojban has umpty gazillion cmavo= in 80 or so selma'o.  klingon affixes are about 60 suffixes and a half= -dozen conjunctions, plus about 40 verb prefixes (designating the person of=20= subject and object together).  hard to learn, but not hard to understan= d.  lojban grammar, with its attempt to cover logic, is a lot harder fo= r me.  but the incompleteness of vocab in both is a problem too, althou= gh much more serious in klingon.
stevo


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