From mouse@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA Tue Apr 13 22:53:15 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkle.rodents.montreal.qc.ca ([216.46.5.7] ident=4mMuzbhTDcsvsBjQKwckcP4FUnKtUexDXzPU0kjqfPl) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BDdKk-00038P-T3 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:53:15 -0700 Received: (from mouse@localhost) by Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA05929; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 01:53:11 -0400 (EDT) From: der Mouse Message-Id: <200404140553.BAA05929@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Erik-Conspiracy: There is no Conspiracy - and if there were I wouldn't be part of it anyway. Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 01:34:03 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] "biker gangs" X-archive-position: 639 X-Approved-By: mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners I was mulling over the sample discussed here a while back that, in its initial form, used "relxilma'e zekri girzu" to mean "biker gangs". Quite aside from using "relxilma'e" to mean "motorcycle" as distinct from "bicycle" (it seems to me that it really refers to both), someone pointed out that "relxilma'e zekri girzu" actually means "cycle-crime group", not the desired "cycle crime-group", suggesting using something like "bo" or "ke". It occurred to me that it also might work to say something like "(matra) relxilma'e zergri". Now, I'm not sure if "zergri" is a valid lujvo (while there's no reason obvious to me why it wouldn't be, I'm hardly an expert), but is the basic approach - tying two fragments of a tanru together by converting them to a lujvo - reasonable? /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse@rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B