From mouse@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA Wed Jul 14 16:49:21 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparkle.rodents.montreal.qc.ca ([216.46.5.7] ident=bnxPWXVzlNkKQTlBwanHPlV33zMI77vHXUa8qNx2KfO) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BktV3-0003Vs-9Q for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:49:21 -0700 Received: (from mouse@localhost) by Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19302; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:49:18 -0400 (EDT) From: der Mouse Message-Id: <200407142349.TAA19302@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Erik-Conspiracy: There is no Conspiracy - and if there were I wouldn't be part of it anyway. Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:40:56 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Articles to Refer to Words Themselves In-Reply-To: <40F32C10.5010706@nc.rr.com> References: <20040331025859.M31434@fresco.Math.McGill.CA> <20040331192943.GO16966@digitalkingdom.org> <40F32C10.5010706@nc.rr.com> X-archive-position: 654 X-Approved-By: mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners > I'm baffled as to which articles, or abstractions, I would use to > specify a word itself, and not its meaning. [...] Various people have said various things, mostly using {zo} in one way or another, such as > zo vol rafsi zo volfi > So, it would give: {zo vol cu rafsi zo vofli}. Here, what is to prevent these from being (mis)parsed as {zo volra ...} and {zo volcu ...}? Is this what > Correct except that rafsi are not, in general, valid Lojban words. and > The CLL (chapter 19) says that for {zo}, "The word must be > morphologically legal", are referring to? Robin does say that > With {vol} you can use zo. [but with some other rafsi you can't] which confuses me, because I can't see what stops it from attaching to the next consonant and vowel, when (as above) the following word begins with a CV pattern, to form a pseudo-gismu. Obviously I'm lacking some sort of clue here; can anyone point me in the right direction? /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse@rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B