From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jul 14 16:55:43 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BktbD-0003mh-QE for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:55:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:55:43 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Articles to Refer to Words Themselves Message-ID: <20040714235543.GV20885@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20040331025859.M31434@fresco.Math.McGill.CA> <20040331192943.GO16966@digitalkingdom.org> <40F32C10.5010706@nc.rr.com> <200407142349.TAA19302@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200407142349.TAA19302@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 655 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 07:40:56PM -0400, der Mouse wrote: > > I'm baffled as to which articles, or abstractions, I would use to > > specify a word itself, and not its meaning. [...] > > Various people have said various things, mostly using {zo} in one way > or another, such as > > > zo vol rafsi zo volfi > > > So, it would give: {zo vol cu rafsi zo vofli}. > > Here, what is to prevent these from being (mis)parsed as {zo volra > ...} and {zo volcu ...}? The space here, or a pause in spoken text. There should probably be a "." after vol. > Is this what > > > Correct except that rafsi are not, in general, valid Lojban words. > > and The CLL (chapter 19) says that for {zo}, "The word must be > > morphologically legal", > > are referring to? No, seperate issue. "vol" is a valid Lojban cmene, and as such can be quoted with zo. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"