From pnewton@gmx.de Tue Jul 20 01:24:19 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postman4.arcor-online.net ([151.189.20.158] helo=postman.arcor.de) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.32) id 1Bmpv8-0004yN-Q7 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:24:19 -0700 Received: from hamwpne1 (cou.ch [212.13.198.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by postman.arcor.de (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id i6K8OEsi009599 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:24:15 +0200 (MEST) From: "Philip Newton" Organization: datenrevision GmbH & Co. OHG To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:24:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: New beginner Message-ID: <40FCF2CD.11414.2BE3C3@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20040720055828.GR1391@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <40FC80B4.3050503@yahoo.com.au> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-archive-position: 672 X-Approved-By: pnewton@gmx.de X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: pnewton@gmx.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 19 Jul 2004 at 22:58, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 12:17:24PM +1000, Tristan Mc Leay wrote: > > It probably didn't help that I started by reading the Wikipedia entry > > on the topic, which has words but no pronunciation anywhere. I suppose > > I might've been exaggerating, but it seems like you're reading more > > than you are, there's so much of it :) > > Eep! If someone who knows Wikipedia could fix that, I'd appreciate it. Anyone can edit Wikipedia articles. I've put up a little pronunciation chart based on chapter 3 of CLL (well, the HTML pre-final version) and a file called LojbanIPA.pdf I got from somewhere. I wasn't sure how much I could steal from it so I didn't copy more of CLL, though it might be useful in the context of pronunciation. Please check ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban ) and make any changes or additions you deem necessary. (For example, I have nothing on diphthongs, which can be either rising or falling.) mu'o mi'e .filip. -- filip.niutyn. li te'o te'a ka'o bi'e pi'i pai su'i pa du li no