From chris@balcomie.freeserve.co.uk Wed Aug 18 06:50:13 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 18 Aug 2004 11:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.193.210]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BxQpQ-0005Fq-Cs for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:50:12 -0700 Received: from modem-3.americium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.67.3] helo=crh37) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BxQpO-0005gx-IG for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:50:11 +0100 From: "Chris Howlett" To: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Anyone there? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:50:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c4852a$47bd1070$0343883e@crh37> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20040817221623.GO3538@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-archive-position: 688 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: chris@balcomie.freeserve.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners coi robyn. > I'm going to go ahead and translate what you've said rather > than try to stay in Lojban. If that's not OK with you, let me know. That's fine by me - I figured I maybe had more chance of getting some responses if I wrote in Lojban to start off with... > I notice you enjoy lujvo. I suggest that if you haven't come > up with a complete place structure, you use tanru instead. http://www.lojban.org/jbovlaste/ is the official lujvo repository. Yes, you're probably right. I have the wordlist from that site, and jbotermri and jboxelmri are listed as official lujvo for "Lojban mailing recipient" and "Lojban mailing list", so I'd formed jboselmri and jbomri by extension since the first place was always going to be clear. But yes, I guess lojbo selmrilu and lojbo mrilu would have been better. > ba lenu mi co'a jbotermri pe le vi jboxelmri kei > > After I began to receive mail here. > > I suggest "dei" rather than "vi". Ok. I hadn't come across dei yet - and from the wordlist definition I'm not sure I'd have used it if I had, but I guess it does make sense - it'd be roughly "The mailing list located at this utterance", wouldn't it? > la terkancu be le'i jboselmri pe le vi jboxelmri cu cmalu > > The Count (I assume you meant le?) of mail is small. Er, yes. Oops. Incidentally, is that a reasonable way of saying "The amount of, the number of"? > .i xu so'i lo prenu cu jbomri pe le vi jboxelmri > > Are there many people here? > > 267 /usr/local/ecartis/lists/lojban-beginners/users Quite a few, certainly > fe'omi'e .kris > > Wow, someone actually used fe'o. Go you. As I said before, I'm learning from "Lojban for Beginners", which notes that fe'o is the actually correct sign-off, so I figured I'd give it a go. Anyway, I'm glad it all meant more or less what I'd meant it to... fe'omi'e kris.