From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 18 14:07:06 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BxXeD-0007KY-Vu for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:07:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:07:05 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Anyone there? Message-ID: <20040818210705.GJ13226@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20040817221623.GO3538@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <000201c4852a$47bd1070$0343883e@crh37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000201c4852a$47bd1070$0343883e@crh37> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 690 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 02:50:09PM +0100, Chris Howlett wrote: > coi robyn. Unfortunately, I loathe the pronounciation of all Lojbanizations of my name. To address me in Lojban, I request that you use either "camgusmis" or, if you can't remember that, "rabn". > > I'm going to go ahead and translate what you've said rather than try > > to stay in Lojban. If that's not OK with you, let me know. > > That's fine by me - I figured I maybe had more chance of getting some > responses if I wrote in Lojban to start off with... Not necessary; this is the beginner's list after all. > > I notice you enjoy lujvo. I suggest that if you haven't come up > > with a complete place structure, you use tanru instead. > > http://www.lojban.org/jbovlaste/ is the official lujvo repository. > > Yes, you're probably right. I have the wordlist from that site, and > jbotermri and jboxelmri are listed as official lujvo for "Lojban > mailing recipient" and "Lojban mailing list", They are? Oh, those are noralujv entries. They're auto-generated from every Lujvo that anyone has ever used (at the time they were made, many years ago). Many of them are quite bad, and they don't appear in the dictionary anymore. We mostly use samselmri for "e-mail", and "samselmri liste" for "mailing list". > so I'd formed jboselmri and jbomri by extension since the first place > was always going to be clear. But yes, I guess lojbo selmrilu and > lojbo mrilu would have been better. Not a big deal. You needn't even bother with the "lojbo" part. > > ba lenu mi co'a jbotermri pe le vi jboxelmri kei > > > > After I began to receive mail here. > > > > I suggest "dei" rather than "vi". > > Ok. I hadn't come across dei yet - and from the wordlist definition > I'm not sure I'd have used it if I had, but I guess it does make sense > - it'd be roughly "The mailing list located at this utterance", > wouldn't it? That's the idea, yes. Except just "associated with", not "located". Mailing lists are virtual things; they have no location, and nothing can be located at them. > > la terkancu be le'i jboselmri pe le vi jboxelmri cu cmalu > > > > The Count (I assume you meant le?) of mail is small. > > Er, yes. Oops. Incidentally, is that a reasonable way of saying "The > amount of, the number of"? Quite. > > fe'omi'e .kris > > > > Wow, someone actually used fe'o. Go you. > > As I said before, I'm learning from "Lojban for Beginners", which > notes that fe'o is the actually correct sign-off, Does it? Where? > so I figured I'd give it a go. Anyway, I'm glad it all meant more or > less what I'd meant it to... I had no problems understand you. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"