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From: "Chris Howlett" <chris@balcomie.freeserve.co.uk>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la'i<somename>. - Unique semantics of letter combinations?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:48:35 +0100
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As I understand it, the difference occurs because "la'i lojban" is
actually pronounced subtly differently from "la .ilojban". The ' - a
syllable separator - is not so much a pause as just a means of changing
syllables. It's often written as a light h. In contrast, . is a glottal
stop, a very real pause. As an example, consider the name "Ryan". As
it's pronounced (where I live at least!), that could just about be
lojbanised as "rai'an". The alternative "rai.an" would become in English
something more akin to "rye - an", where the gap includes a glottal stop
(the vocal thing where you push air through a closed throat, forcing it
open. You'll do it automatically if you try to say just "ah".)

Hope that made sense - it's very hard discussing pronunciation through
text!

mi'e kris.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org 
> [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jens-Wolfhard Schicke
> Sent: 29 August 2004 11:03
> To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
> Subject: [lojban-beginners] la'i<somename>. - Unique 
> semantics of letter combinations?
> 
> 
> I read the claim, that
> > A stream of Lojban sounds can be uniquely broken up into 
> its component 
> > words according to specific rules.
> [ Reference Grammar, Chapter 4 ]
> 
> So how abount the stream
> 
> .imiskicula'ilojban.
> 
> Where do I know from whether I describe the thing named 
> "'ilojban" or the set of named "lojban"?
> 
> BTW:
> ~ # ./jbofihe
> .imiskicula'ilojban.
> Unrecognizable word ''ilojban' at line 1 column 12
> 
>