From philip.newton@gmail.com Tue Sep 21 00:39:30 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.198] helo=mproxy.gmail.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C9fFK-0002tx-6e for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:39:30 -0700 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so1496447rnk for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.15.66 with SMTP id 66mr2646814rno; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.15.71 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <537d06d00409210039425353c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:39:13 +0200 From: Philip Newton To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gismu abbreviations? In-Reply-To: <000001c49f6c$322f46e0$b92f883e@crh37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII References: <20040920185823.GC23979@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <000001c49f6c$322f46e0$b92f883e@crh37> X-archive-position: 787 X-Approved-By: philip.newton@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: philip.newton@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:47:29 +0100, Chris Howlett wrote: > Sorry, I didn't explain myself properly. I was referring to the > .-pauses. Why do you need a '.' before the cmene after a COI cmavo, but > not after la? The three words "doi", "la", and "lai" can be followed immediately by a name without a pause. Name words have to have a pause before them if any other word (including COI cmavo or, say, "zo") comes before. A result of this is that names may not contain the sequences "doi", "la", or "lai" (except when they can, but let's ignore this for now) - this way, you can find out a name by looking for a consonant followed by pause and going backwards until you hit either one of those three syllables or another pause. mu'o mi'e .filip. -- Philip Newton