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Hi Glenn.

Do you have a computer? (Stupid question - you're sending email).

You can get automatic translations from lojban to English with a program 
called "jbofihe", or its non-grammer-checking friend, "cmafihe". You can 
install these on Debian Linux using "apt-get install jbofihe". If you're 
using Windows, then you'll have to use Google. Maybe there is a copy for 
windows on the "files" section of the wiki on www.lojban.org. (btw, 
comment about the site: its hard to find things from the main menu.)

I don't understand the output much myself, but they do show the grammer 
and the english translations.

Mikevdg.

Glenn Alexander wrote:

>Hi, 
> 
>I'm trying to get my head around place structures. I understand them 
>in principle, but wouldn't mind being able to see them in action 
>before I have picked up the general language. 
> 
>One thing that has helped me pick up some Chinese grammar was 
>listening to Chinese speak 'Chinglish' which is pretty much Chinese 
>grammar with English words substituted in. 
> 
>Would it be possible to get hold of some lojban text with familiar 
>English words substituted for the lojban words? 
> 
>Possibly a dictionary-substitution-based machine translation. I read a 
>good deal of machine-translated Chinese anyway, so I am quite used to 
>it ;-) 
>  
>