From MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Thu Dec 02 16:47:37 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ca1bl-0000TQ-K8 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:47:37 -0800 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id j.46.5dd71af3 (25098) for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:47:00 -0500 (EST) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: <46.5dd71af3.2ee11184@wmconnect.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:47:00 EST Subject: [lojban-beginners] masses, sets, formal logic To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_46.5dd71af3.2ee11184_boundary" X-archive-position: 929 X-Approved-By: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners --part1_46.5dd71af3.2ee11184_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2004-12-02 5:23:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > The more I learn about Lojban grammar, the more I realize I could benefit > from learning formal logic. For instance, I don't know what masses and sets > are, exactly. Is there an accessable and (preferably) free work to which you > can point me? > -la epcat > My impression over the years is that masses and sets are used in Lojban in an idiosyncratic way, not the way of formal logic. They've been a hairy mess from the beginning. stevo --part1_46.5dd71af3.2ee11184_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 2004-12-02 5:23:02=20= AM Eastern Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:


The more I learn about Lojb= an grammar, the more I realize I could benefit from learning formal logic. F= or instance, I don't know what masses and sets are, exactly. Is there an acc= essable and (preferably) free work to which you can point me?
-la epcat


My impression over the years is that masses and sets are used in Lojban=20= in an idiosyncratic way, not the way of formal logic.  They've been a h= airy mess from the beginning.

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