From robin@bilkent.edu.tr Fri Dec 10 12:37:16 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CcrVq-0004uR-Eh for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:37:16 -0800 Received: by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix, from userid 72) id DD62C32219; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:36:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from [139.179.111.113] (ppp113.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.113]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6630026F52 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:36:22 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41BA08DC.4050900@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:36:44 +0200 From: robin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040914 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gismu for nationalities References: <12d58c1604121011288c4b03b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <12d58c1604121011288c4b03b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-archive-position: 937 X-Approved-By: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Adam COOPER wrote: > What is the rationale behind using gismu rather than cmene for > nationalities? Or perhaps the better question is, given that this > decision was taken, how was it determined which nationalities got > gismu (porto) & which didn't (Nigeria, Vietnam, Italy?)? mu'o mi'e > .adam. > I've always been against the nationality/culture gismu, but it's part of the history of the language. As for how they were chosen, they are the nations represented by the languages from which the gismu were formed, plus names of countries, languages and cultures that are common in those languages. robin.tr -- "Force has no place where there is need of skill." - Herodotus Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin