From pubsynx7hye@pacbell.net Tue Jan 18 07:52:04 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-63-197-122-98.dsl.sktn01.pacbell.net ([63.197.122.98] helo=synx.dyndns.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CqveG-0001EE-5N for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:52:04 -0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by synx.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25127273C for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:52:02 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page) Message-ID: <41ED30A2.2000309@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:52:02 -0800 From: Tasci User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Everyone should speak lojban? References: <41E86B09.7010004@pacbell.net> <3E9364E6-66E3-11D9-B104-000D9329C984@online.fr> <41EAEF88.5090407@pacbell.net> <20050117175813.GS10940@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <41EC9420.7090501@pacbell.net> <20050118071142.GE11619@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20050118071142.GE11619@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-archive-position: 1031 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: pubsynx7hye@pacbell.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Robin Lee Powell wrote: >I have no idea where you got these rules from. > Nothing like a good ad hominem to put me in my place, eh? ;) > #1 applies to >selma'o UI and CAI only, as does #2. That's about 220 cmavo out of, >umm, about a thousand. So #3 covers the vast majority of cmavo. A >few of the more important ones in #3, just off the top of my head: >.i je gi'e .e .a lo le la cu bo. > > Right, exactly. That is why cmavo are so freaking hard to learn. Definitely somewhat of a hack to supplement that which brivla cannot describe. It's more elegant than English, true, but achieving that is not very hard. I really should find some place that lists all the types of cmavo (selma'o?) and at least learn the types, if not all "umm, about a thousand" individual thingies.