From philip.newton@gmail.com Wed Jan 19 22:36:03 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CrVvH-0005ab-8B for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:36:03 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so94485rne for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:36:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CFA6f92xUmqY1CX0NrMSbf99r8a6Cq42m5jHBSmqREWqiUgJSFVm2pQsV11yVKYxUn18Tv+YE9jHlp5d3C5beDa6KmgCSUReiWhaiY6JH0wTs3L41Uqbwypq4RP8/jwR3f4mmc4CQAakZTx0v6Dr9esGDSoPED+2DgRVVHlQguc= Received: by 10.38.83.55 with SMTP id g55mr239327rnb; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.208.61 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:36:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <537d06d005011922362327a499@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:36:01 +0100 From: Philip Newton To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: apostrophes? In-Reply-To: <20050119225024.D14421@fresco.Math.McGill.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII References: <41EEFA48.7020900@gulik.co.nz> <20050119225024.D14421@fresco.Math.McGill.CA> X-archive-position: 1045 X-Approved-By: philip.newton@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: philip.newton@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:50:24 -0500, Andrew Archibald wrote: > miklamalezarci .idocadzulebisli > > is perfectly valid unambiguous lojban. You sure? vlatai turns that into "mi klamalezarci .i do ca dzulebisli", though what the type-4 fu'ivla "klamalezarci" and "dzulebisli" mean is anyone's guess. I think you need to mark either word boundaries or stress (".a", not ".onai"), otherwise stress is on the penult by default and you get fu'ivla. miklAmalezArci.idocAdzulebIsli on the other hand, might work (without even the space in the middle! since you have the dot there). > It's not usual to write it > this way, but certain other gluings are more common (e.g. {pukiku}). or {lenu}/{calenu} or, famously, {ganai} (which people are occasionally tempted to treat as a word, e.g. by quoting it with {zo}, because they learned it as one unit). mu'o mi'e .filip. -- Philip Newton